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07-28-2006, 12:00 PM
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this is way to stressful for me...

I'm going to go back to just knowing what I believe in and if my faith is strong enough - I won't be in hell. When it is my time, I have to accept that it is my time. He has chosen the path for which I will travel....I can't change his plans.

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07-28-2006, 12:02 PM
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The Bible teaches that the dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are righteous in his sight will be caught up to meet him. It never teaches that Jesus will set foot on earth. It does teach that when this happens, that is the end, then comes judgement.

As for proof...what proof do you have? You have theory. There is proof supporting the Bible. Many people say it's coincidence, or science can explain some things. Remember, God created those phenomena. He gave us the ability to figure things out. Without Him, we wouldn't even exist.

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07-28-2006, 12:03 PM
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Daniel294 Wrote:My views have just as much proof as yours do.
I dont' agree...my views have been passed on through history,yours have no basis,no purpose...
anyway,if I'm wrong,what did I lose,but if are wrong,you lose everything and will burn forever after death...easy choice I'd say,even from simply a point of view of someone that thinks reason is God.
"Deism is basing his belief on the light of nature and reason."
Sounds nice,but doesn't mean anything.
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07-28-2006, 12:03 PM
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wwstewart Wrote:The Bible teaches that the dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are righteous in his sight will be caught up to meet him. It never teaches that Jesus will set foot on earth. It does teach that when this happens, that is the end, then comes judgement.

As for proof...what proof do you have? You have theory. There is proof supporting the Bible. Many people say it's coincidence, or science can explain some things. Remember, God created those phenomena. He gave us the ability to figure things out. Without Him, we wouldn't even exist.
Proof can be manufactured. You have no proof towards your view, and I have no proof towards mine. Proof towards something so big will never exist. Therefore it's up to people to live the best lives possible.
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07-28-2006, 12:04 PM
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Stormlover Wrote:That freedom is also what will doom those to hell that don't believe,and haven't been saved....don't get mad at me,I didn't say it,God through Jesus did.

I am talking about just the end of the world, not the saving part. I mean that the end of the world could come "naturally" because maybe that was God's plan, no one knows. And the first part of your statement, if that is the case, then humans were doomed from the beginning, before the creation. IDK, I'm out, not a fan of faith battles.
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07-28-2006, 12:04 PM
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Quote:If your god was as forgiving as you say it is, then it wouldn't mind me believing in something else.

He is forgiving - to those who honestly seek Him. Everyone who does not will be punished. You can believe what you like, I'm not trying to tell you what you can/can't believe. He gives us two options: 1) do His will and be rewarded and 2) don't do His will and be punished.

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07-28-2006, 12:06 PM
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Daniel294 Wrote:Proof can be manufactured. You have no proof towards your view, and I have no proof towards mine. Proof towards something so big will never exist. Therefore it's up to people to live the best lives possible.

And that is where faith comes in. Proof is not something 'manufactured', it is fact that points to a solution. God is bigger than everything we humans can imagine (He is God, after all). But it takes faith for someone to believe that.

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07-28-2006, 12:06 PM
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Stormlover Wrote:I dont' agree...my views have been passed on through history,yours have no basis,no purpose...
anyway,if I'm wrong,what did I lose,but if are wrong,you lose everything and will burn forever after death...easy choice I'd say,even from simply a point of view of someone that thinks reason is God.
Unless you're wrong and you get an equally bad fate by some other version of your god that is pissed at you for not believing in it. I will never pretend to believe something just for the basis that I'll "burn". Certain views are older than yours, but do they give them any more validity? No.
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07-28-2006, 12:07 PM
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Daniel294 Wrote:Unless you're wrong and you get an equally bad fate by some other version of your god that is pissed at you for not believing in it. I will never pretend to believe something just for the basis that I'll "burn". Certain views are older than yours, but do they give them any more validity? No.
Your choice my friend,but hope you realize it is a life and death decision for eternity that you have closed your mind to.
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07-28-2006, 12:08 PM
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wwstewart Wrote:He is forgiving - to those who honestly seek Him. Everyone who does not will be punished. You can believe what you like, I'm not trying to tell you what you can/can't believe. He gives us two options: 1) do His will and be rewarded and 2) don't do His will and be punished.
Oh believe me I've thought about religions. I was a Methodist for a certain period in my life. After some certain realizations, I've found out that I'm a deist/agnostic, and I'm happy to be it.

As for God's will, if I live my life in peace and don't do anything else to harm with the peace of others, what does it matter?
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