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04-26-2006, 07:38 AM
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soonermeteor Wrote:can i play the devil's advocate for one second and ask why she didnt figure this was going to happen? Hi, here i am, naked.

Well, if your a boy and you can't control yourself when you hire a stripper...you should NOT hire a stripper! How they hell would she have KNOWN she woulda got raped? It's what she does for a living....take off her clothes. Please, if it was rape, Sooner...don't say it's her fault cause she was stripping! Jeez!

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04-26-2006, 08:06 AM
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I don't think he is saying it was her fault, but it is kinda like walking across a busy highway every night near the local bar full of drunks. Sonner or later your luck is going to run out and a drunk will hit you.

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04-26-2006, 08:15 AM
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katiebuglj Wrote:She is a victim.

If it was your daughter...would you want her name all over the media?
if she was your daughter would she be a striper??

these guys are not guilty!
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04-26-2006, 08:43 AM
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ladybug Wrote:I don't think he is saying it was her fault, but it is kinda like walking across a busy highway every night near the local bar full of drunks. Sonner or later your luck is going to run out and a drunk will hit you.
Sooner is right...sooner is trouble already/blink/
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04-28-2006, 07:36 AM
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[COLOR="Purple"][SIZE="4"]Duke accuser alleged rape 13 years ago[/SIZE]
[SIZE="3"]Charges were never pressed; her father says she wasn't raped then[/SIZE]

DURHAM, N.C. - A stripper who says she was raped by three Duke University lacrosse players during a party also accused three men of raping her when she was a teenager, according to a complaint filed a decade ago.

In the 1996 report, the woman claims she was raped three years earlier, at age 14. None of the men named in the report were ever charged with sexual assault, said authorities in nearby Granville County, but they didn’t have details why.

Relatives told Essence magazine in an online story this week that the woman declined to pursue the case out of fear for her safety. A phone number for the accuser has been disconnected, and her father said Thursday night he remembered little about the incident except going with police to a home where he said his daughter was being held “against her will.”

The existence of the earlier rape report surprised defense attorneys in the Duke case, who have sought information about the woman’s past for use in attacking her credibility.

“That’s the very first I’ve heard of that,” said Bill Cotter, the attorney for indicted lacrosse player Collin Finnerty.

Finnerty and fellow Duke player Reade Seligmann are charged with first-degree rape, kidnapping and sexual assault and face a hearing May 15.

Cotter declined additional comment.

March 13 party
The accuser is a 27-year-old student at North Carolina Central University in Durham who told police she was hired to perform as a stripper at a March 13 party.

Seligmann’s legal team earlier this week filed a motion seeking her medical, legal and education records. The lawyers also asked for a pretrial hearing to determine if she is credible.

Attorney Joe Cheshire, who represents a player on the team who has not been charged, said it was notable that authorities apparently decided not to prosecute the earlier case. Cheshire also said he would like to know whether current prosecutors knew about the allegation or if the accuser told them about it.

“These are serious allegations, particularly for a person that age. In my mind, it would raise real issues about her credibility,” he said.

According to the Creedmoor police report in August 1996, when the woman was 18, she told officers she was raped and beaten by three men “for a continual time” in 1993. She told police she was attacked at an “unspecified location” on a street in Creedmoor, a town 15 miles northeast of Durham.

Asked Thursday if she was sexually assaulted, her father said, “I can’t remember.” In an interview with the News & Observer of Raleigh, posted Thursday night on the newspaper’s Web site, he said the men “didn’t do anything to her.”

The report lists the names of the three men, but no other details. Creedmoor police Chief Ted Pollard said he had no recollection of the report, and his staff has been unable to find any additional information about it.

Durham police Officer Brian Bishop, who interviewed the accuser in 1996 while working on the Creedmoor force, said he had a vague recollection of the report. He said he could not remember any details.

When asked about the accuser’s previous rape accusation, Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong declined comment.

Before Seligmann and Finnerty were indicted, attorneys for the players pointed to the accuser’s criminal history when answering questions about their clients’ legal troubles: The woman pleaded guilty to several misdemeanors in 2002.
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04-28-2006, 09:59 AM
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Saw that last night....this case is history if this is true.Lying about another alleged rape with also 3 perps and physical abuse...rings too familiar.If this is proven true,not only should the case be thrown out but that DA should resign for not doing his proper investigation before coming to a conclusion and the woman should be arrested for false charges among other things.
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04-28-2006, 10:17 AM
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Stormlover Wrote:Saw that last night....this case is history if this is true.Lying about another alleged rape with also 3 perps and physical abuse...rings too familiar.If this is proven true,not only should the case be thrown out but that DA should resign for not doing his proper investigation before coming to a conclusion and the woman should be arrested for false charges among other things.

[COLOR="Purple"]Well, I'm no attorney but I don't think they can "throw out" this case cause she lied about the last. It's the obligation of the state to investigate the present case. If the state finds sufficient evidence then they'll move forward. Otherwise, it will be thrown out if there's not enough evidence for a conviction. Do you have proof, Storm, that the DA didn't properly investigate? Cause, from something I read there IS a medical exam stating she did have signs of being assaulted. (I believe Bug had read that somewhere also). So, the DA really HAS to move forward with this based on that. He can just say...."ahhh, she's lying, lets forget about this".
Now, if this all does come out that she did, in fact, lie about this case...I'm sure she will be prosecuted for filing false statement (among other charges) cause the states seriously frown upon spending money invesitgating a case that is false. Hence, the runaway bride sage. She had to pay all that money back that went into investigating her "kidnapping". [/COLOR]

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04-28-2006, 10:38 AM
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eyendastorm Wrote:[COLOR="Purple"]Well, I'm no attorney but I don't think they can "throw out" this case cause she lied about the last. It's the obligation of the state to investigate the present case. If the state finds sufficient evidence then they'll move forward. Otherwise, it will be thrown out if there's not enough evidence for a conviction. Do you have proof, Storm, that the DA didn't properly investigate? Cause, from something I read there IS a medical exam stating she did have signs of being assaulted. (I believe Bug had read that somewhere also). So, the DA really HAS to move forward with this based on that. He can just say...."ahhh, she's lying, lets forget about this".
Now, if this all does come out that she did, in fact, lie about this case...I'm sure she will be prosecuted for filing false statement (among other charges) cause the states seriously frown upon spending money invesitgating a case that is false. Hence, the runaway bride sage. She had to pay all that money back that went into investigating her "kidnapping". [/COLOR]
Not so,the DA presented one side to the Grand Jury,avoided all of the other evidence that cleared them,and all other evidence that she claimed this in the past.I watch the talking head attorneys on all these shows that know more than even Ladybug:wink: and they say that this can cause the case to have to be dropped.The DA has an obligation to drop the case if there isn't a good chance of winning it.He got off on a biased hunt and was speaking about the case left and right as he campaigned for reelection instead of weighing all the facts.
It isn't just about her lying about another case which sounds almost the same,although the defense will have a field day with it...it's the lack of physcial evidence tying anyone individually to it,the evidence of one or both of the charged players having showing that it's possible they couldn't have done what she said at that time...the rant that the other girl gave where she changed her story and got caught contacting a pr firm to see how she can try to turn this into something good for her,etc..it goes on and on...getting a unanimous verdict with all we know with good defense lawyers is almost nil.
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04-28-2006, 10:46 AM
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Ok. I must be in a fog.


North Carolina Central University in Durham... what does this matter. Why does this matter? Why does it matter that she went to NCCU? IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-28-2006, 10:58 AM
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Tireman4 Wrote:Ok. I must be in a fog.


North Carolina Central University in Durham... what does this matter. Why does this matter? Why does it matter that she went to NCCU? IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just part of the story,just like it's put out about Duke like they have wealth and prividege all the time.
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