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Duke lacrosse alleged rape case gets more interesting
04-20-2006, 09:06 AM
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Duke lacrosse alleged rape case gets more interesting
[SIZE="4"][COLOR="Purple"]'It look to me like somebody get hurt,' Mostafa says during TV interview[/SIZE]

RALEIGH, N.C. - A cab driver who took a Duke University lacrosse player home from a team party says his passenger, now charged with raping an exotic dancer, seemed calm and even jovial that night. But the driver said a second passenger he picked up later was talking about a stripper.

Moez Mostafa said the second passenger spoke about the stripper in a tone that made it “look to me like somebody get hurt.”

Defense attorneys have said they have time-stamped photos from the party, bank records, cell phone calls and a taxi driver’s statement to support Reade Seligmann’s claim that he is innocent of raping the woman on the night of March 13.

A person close to the case told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Wednesday that the cell phone records show Seligmann called for a taxi at 12:14 a.m., and that according to sworn testimony he left in the taxi at 12:19 a.m.

The bank records show he stopped at an ATM five minutes later, the person added, while information provided by Duke shows Seligmann’s ID card was used to enter his dorm at 12:46 a.m.

Mostafa declined to speak to The Associated Press on Wednesday but confirmed to other media outlets that he picked up Seligmann and another passenger at 12:19 a.m., took them to a bank and a drive-through hamburger stand, then dropped them off at a Duke dormitory.

“They were just joking and laughing inside my car and everything just fine,” Mostafa said in accented English in an interview broadcast Thursday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

In an interview on MSNBC, Mostafa said he returned to the house later to pick up another customer. He said he remembered that person “said in a loud voice, ‘She just a stripper.”’

Asked whether the second fare was complaining about the stripper or whether it appeared something bad had happened to her, Mostafa initially said he didn’t “have any information about what was going on in the house.”

“When I look back, he look like he mad at the stripper. Or the stripper, she going to call the police and she just a stripper. ... It look to me like somebody get hurt. But what kind of harm, ... I have no idea.”

The accuser, a 27-year-old student from a nearby college, told police she was attacked by three men at a house where she and another woman were hired to dance at a lacrosse team party on March 13. According to defense attorneys, DNA tests conducted on the team’s players failed to connect any of them to the alleged rape.

Seligmann and fellow sophomore Collin Finnerty were indicted Monday on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping. Each posted $400,000 bond Tuesday and was released.

Mostafa said he didn’t realize his first customers had anything to do with the case until an attorney telephoned him a week or so ago. He told the Herald-Sun of Durham that he was initially reluctant to talk but changed his mind after a visit from Seligmann’s father.

“I didn’t want to get involved, but when his father came and said it was a really serious situation, I talked to them,” he told the newspaper.

He said he was confident he remembered the episode correctly, not so much because the passengers paid $25 for an $18 cab ride but “because I wait for them a long time and they make my car smell, that’s the only reason I have that in my mind.”

He said he was sure he recognized Seligmann, though he didn’t know the other passenger.

“Yeah, I know (Seligmann’s) face that time and I recognize him and I still remember his face,” Mostafa told MSNBC.

The two players were suspended Wednesday until the investigation is concluded, CNN reported. The university declined to comment, but it has historically suspended students charged with a felony.

An attorney for one of two Duke University lacrosse players charged with raping a stripper at a team party Wednesday strongly rejected any sort of deal with prosecutors, proclaiming again his client’s innocence.

“I don’t think there is any chance in hell that there will be a guilty plea,” attorney Bill Cotter said. “I can’t tell you about (everybody), but my client’s case is either going to be dismissed by the D.A. or go to trial.”

Cotter represents Collin Finnerty, who along with fellow sophomore Reade Seligmann was indicted Monday on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping. Each posted $400,000 bond after their pre-dawn arrests early Tuesday, and both were released within hours.
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04-20-2006, 09:18 AM
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HAHA really off topic, but i just realized that this happend on my birthday, odd...
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04-20-2006, 10:35 AM
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Wow...this has plenty of evidence, or propoganda on both sides...if the guys didn't have money and plenty of defense I'd say they would have to plea bargain because of all the publicity...on the other hand, if the DA wasn't up for reelection and falling to intense pressure,I'd say with so many questions that this may not even go to a grand jury due to lack of chance of a unanimous verdict at trial....this is a very interesting situation.
This is worse than idol...calling Katie...calling katie....lol
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04-20-2006, 11:48 AM
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Poll here...not scientific of course...but I think it shows that that DA will have a slim chance of convicting these guys with so much doubt...
{{{ DRUDGE POLL }}}
SHOULD DUKE ACCUSER'S NAME BE REVEALED?

YES
80% 41,021
NO
20% 10,377

Total Votes: 51,398
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04-20-2006, 12:00 PM
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Well, IMO...I think the confusion and conflicting stories come from people and statement that won't even be addressed at the grand jury. These attorney speak without evidence, it's printed and people take that to heart. The story will begin to taper off with more thruths and facts once this goes to court. Juz sayin!

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04-20-2006, 12:04 PM
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eyendastorm Wrote:Well, IMO...I think the confusion and conflicting stories come from people and statement that won't even be addressed at the grand jury. These attorney speak without evidence, it's printed and people take that to heart. The story will begin to taper off with more thruths and facts once this goes to court. Juz sayin!
Yeah, the grand jury just hears one side and that's over and done.Getting 12 jurors to be unanimous on this is unlikely from what we know so far.
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04-20-2006, 03:31 PM
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if you don't think the DA in Durham is on a vendetta and is acting outrageously...look at this...they only put a $50,000 bond for an accused murderer, yet the accused rapists got $400,000./headscrat
http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-726291.html
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04-20-2006, 04:23 PM
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Stormlover Wrote:if you don't think the DA in Durham is on a vendetta and is acting outrageously...look at this...they only put a $50,000 bond for an accused murderer, yet the accused rapists got $400,000./headscrat
http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-726291.html

The DA doesn't set the bonds the judge does. Not saying teh DA is not on a vendaetta just sayin

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04-21-2006, 07:14 AM
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[COLOR="Purple"]‘I think they’re guilty,’ she says; defense attorneys attack motivations

DURHAM, N.C. - At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn’t so sure.

“I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can’t say a rape occurred — and I never will,” Roberts told The Associated Press on Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers’ criminal pasts, she said she has to “wonder about their character.”

“In all honesty, I think they’re guilty,” she said. “And I can’t say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That’s my honest-to-God impression.”

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players’ innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser’s allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on “how to spin this to my advantage.”

“We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest,” said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. “I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility.”

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 — eight days after the party — on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

“It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying,” Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts’ attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn’t spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn’t return a call seeking comment.

Roberts’ testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann’s face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty — whom she described as the “little skinny one.”

“I was looking him right in the eyes,” she said.
Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police — including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players’ attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

“They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick,” she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That’s when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser — whom she reportedly had just met that night — to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as “just passed-out drunk.”

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, “She’s just a stripper. She’s going to call the police.”

“She looked, like, mad,” he said of the woman. “In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad.”

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty’s and Seligmann’s dorm rooms. Police took a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty from his room, and an iPod, various accessories, computer manuals, photos and a CD from Seligmann’s room.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in “crisis communication,” distributed an e-mail signed “The 2nd Dancer,” and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

“I’ve found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country,” she wrote. “I’m worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage.”

Ronn Torossian, 5W’s president, said he replied, but got no response.

“If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her,” said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean “Diddy” Combs, Ice Cube and Lil’ Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She’s worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

“Why shouldn’t I profit from it?” she asked. “I didn’t ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter.”

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she’s almost past caring.

“Don’t forget that they called me a damn ******,” she said. “She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn’t know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that.”
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04-21-2006, 08:55 AM
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ladybug Wrote:The DA doesn't set the bonds the judge does. Not saying teh DA is not on a vendaetta just sayin
Well,the DA can request the bond amount....and something is wrong in that system when a murder suspect gets $50,000 and these guys get $400,000....
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