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Quote:Uncovering Lies About Disappearing Oil And Toxic Dispersants Found In BP Gulf Oil Spill Waters Opened For Fishing

Posted by Alexander Higgins - August 17, 2010 at 7:10 am
The rampant use of toxic dispersants, out-of-state private contractors being brought in to spray them and US Coast Guard complicity are common stories now in the four states most affected by BP’s Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.

While the government denies these reports and even denies using military aircraft to spray dispersants altogether there is plenty of evidence proving they are lying.

While the Federal Government denies that military aircraft are being used to spray dispersants there is plenty of proof to show that they are lying.

In fact, there are photos and video of C-130s dropping dispersant in the Gulf.

Members of the 910th Airlift Wing are in Mississippi to assist with response to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. The 910th AW specializes in aerial spray and is the Department of Defense’s only large-area fixed wing aerial spray unit.

The Hercules planes are being refueled and refilled with dispersant at the Stennis airport facility on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.

The video below shows a crew in flight above the Gulf as they prepare to drop the chemical dispersants, which are meant to break up the oil before it hits the coastline.

“This is the mother load right here,” one crew member says as they fly low above reddish fingers of oil streaking across the Gulf.
Commercial and charter fishermen, residents and members of BP’s Vessels Of Opportunity (VOO) program in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana have spoken with Truthout about their witnessing all of these incidents.

Toxic Dispersants Found on Recently Opened Mississippi Shrimping and Oyster Grounds

On Monday, August 9, the Director of the State of Mississippi Department of Marine Resources (DMR), Bill Walker, despite ongoing reports of tar balls, oil and dispersants being found in Mississippi waters, declared, “there should be no new threats” and issued an order for all local coast governments to halt ongoing oil disaster work being funded by BP money that was granted to the state.

Similar stories have surfaced in Louisiana where fisherman have caught shrimp covered in oil and were told to shut up about it by Government officials after complaining about it..

BP had allocated $25 million to Mississippi for local government disaster work. As of August 9, Walker estimated that only about $500,000 worth of invoices for oil response work had been submitted to the state. Nobody knows what the rest of the money will be used for.

In Recent days in Mississippi waters fishermen and scientists have been finding oil in Garden Pond on Horn Island, massive fish kills near Cat Island, “black water” in Mississippi Sound and submerged oil in Pass Christian.
Mississippi residents and fishermen Truthout spoke with believe Walker’s move was from an order given by Gov. Haley Barbour, who has been heavily criticized over the years for his lobbying on behalf of the Tobacco and Oil industries.

Two days after Walker’s announcement and in response to claims from state and federal officials that Gulf Coast waters are safe and clean, fishermen took their own samples from the waters off of Pass Christian in Mississippi.

The samples were taken in water that is now open for shrimping, as well as from waters directly over Mississippi’s oyster bed, that will likely open in September for fishing.

Commercial fisherman James “Catfish” Miller, took fishermen Danny Ross Jr. and Mark Stewart, along with scientist Dr. Ed Cake of Gulf Environmental Associates and others out and they found the fishing grounds to be contaminated with oil and dispersants.

Similarly water samples taken by a local news station in Alabama waters reopened for fishing where also found to be highly toxic.

In fact the federal government has decided to violate its own protocols and reopen BP Gulf Oil Spill wishing waters based on “visual observation” of no oil on the surface using inadequate and skewed test results of fishing samples to justify the reopening of the waters.

Their method was simple – they tied an absorbent rag to a weighted hook, dropped it overboard for a short duration of time, then pulled it up to find the results. The rags were covered in a brown, oily substance that the fishermen identified as a mix of BP’s crude oil and toxic dispersants.
While the government has declared Gulf fishing waters oil free independent scientists warn that underwater plumes of oil will continue to leave a toxic layer of invisible oil on Gulf beaches for months and possibly even years.

Shortly thereafter, Catfish Miller took the samples to a community meeting in nearby D’Iberville to show fishermen and families. At the meeting, fishermen unanimously supported a petition calling for the firing of Dr. Walker, the head of Mississippi’s DMR, who is responsible for opening the fishing grounds.

Dr. Cake wrote of the experience: “When the vessel was stopped for sampling, small, 0.5- to 1.0-inch-diameter bubbles would periodically rise to the surface and shortly thereafter they would pop leaving a small oil sheen. According to the fishermen, several of BP’s Vessels-of-Opportunity (Carolina Skiffs with tanks of dispersants [Corexit]) were hand spraying in Mississippi Sound off the Pass Christian Harbor in prior days/nights. It appears to this observer that the dispersants are still in the area and are continuing to react with oil in the waters off Pass Christian Harbor.”

Ongoing Contamination and the Carolina Skiffs

On August 13, Truthout visited Pass Christian Harbor in Mississippi. Oil sheen was present, the vapors of which could be smelled, causing our eyes to burn. Many ropes that tied boats to the dock were oiled and much of the water covered with oil sheen.

Remarkably all of the water samples taken by the Government have found no levels of oil or dispersant contamination above levels of concern anywhere in Gulf waters.
A resident, who has a yacht in the harbor, spoke with Truthout on condition of anonymity due to fears of reprisal from BP. “Last week we were sitting on our boat and you could smell the chemicals,” he explained. “It smelt like death. It was like mosquito spray, but ten times stronger. The next day I was hoarse and my lungs felt like I’d been in a smoky bar the night before.”

Oil boom was present throughout much of the harbor. Despite this, fishermen, obviously trusting Mr. Walker’s announcement about the fishing waters being clear of oil and dispersant, were trying to catch fish from their boat inside the harbor.
“Last week oil filled this harbor,” the man, an ex-commercial fisherman added. “BP has bought off all our government officials, and shut them up. You can’t say the oil is gone, it’s right here! Them saying it’s not here is a bunch of bullshit.”

The oil is indeed still throughout the Gulf which is why Michelle Obama objected to Barack swimming in the Gulf and instead the Obamas swam in a protected inland water way instead of in the Gulf as the president promised.

Truthout spoke with another man, who was recently laid off from the VOO program. He also spoke on condition of anonymity. “Just the other day one of the Carolina Skiffs passed us spraying something,” he said. “We went west instead of east as we turned and a group of Carolina Skiffs was spraying something over the water.”

A Carolina Skiff is a type of boat, usually between 13′ and 30′ long, very versatile and can function well in shallow or deep waters. They are known for having a large payload capacity and a lot of interior space.

Alarmed by what he saw, the former VOO worker called the Coast Guard to report what he believed was a private contractor company spraying dispersants. “We were later told by the Coast Guard they’d investigated the incident and told us what we saw were vacuum boats sucking oil, and they were rinsing their tanks,” he said. “But we know this is a lie and that BP is using these out of state contractors to come in and spray the dispersant at night and they are using planes to drop it as well.”

He worked in the VOO program looking for oil. When his team would find oil, upon reporting it, they would consistently be sent away without explanation or the opportunity to clean it. “They made us abort these missions,” he said. “Two days ago I put out boom in a bunch of oil for five minutes, they told me to abort the mission, so I pulled up boom soaked in oil. What the hell are we doing out there if they won’t let us work to clean up the oil?”

He told Truthout that as his and other VOO teams would be going out to work on the water in the morning, they would pass the out-of-state contractors in Carolina Skiffs coming in from what he believed to be a covert spraying of the oil with dispersant in order to sink it. He believes this was done to deliberately prevent the VOO teams from finding and collecting oil. By doing so, BP’s liability would be lessened since the oil giant will be fined for the amount of oil collected.

“BP brings in the Carolina Skiffs to spray the dispersant at night,” he added, “And they are not accountable to the Coast Guard.”

James Miller, who had taken the group out into the Mississippi Sound that found the oil/dispersants on August 11, told Truthout that the Carolina Skiff teams spraying dispersants were “common” and that it “happened all the time.”

So common that even NOAA has admitted that the neurotoxin pesticide dispersant may be in the food chain.

Miller, who was in the VOO, is an eyewitness to planes spraying dispersants, as well as the Carolina Skiff crews doing the same.

“We’d roll up on a patch of oil ½ mile wide by one mile long and they’d hold us off from cleaning it up,” Miller, speaking with Truthout at his home in D’Iberville, Mississippi, said. “We’d leave and the Carolina Skiffs would pull up and start spraying dispersants on the oil. The guys doing the spraying would wear respirators and safety glasses. Their boats have 375 gallon white drums full of the stuff and they could spray it out 150 feet. The next day there’d be the white foam that’s always there after they hit the oil with dispersants.”

Some nights VOO crews would sleep out near the work sites. “We’d sleep out there and some nights the planes would come in so close the noise would wake us from a dead sleep,” Miller added. “Again, we’d call in the oiled areas during the day and at night the planes would come in and hit the hell out of it with dispersants. That was the drill. We’d spot it and report it. They’d call us off it and send guys out in the skiffs or planes to sink it.”

Mark Stewart, from Ocean Springs, Mississippi, was in the VOO program for 70 days before being laid off on August 2. The last weeks has seen BP decreasing the number of response workers from around 45,000 down to around 30,000. The number is decreasing by the day.

Stewart, a third generation commercial fisherman, told Truthout he had regularly seen “purple looking jelly stuff, three feet thick, floating all over, as wide as a football field” and “tar balls as big as a car.” He, like Miller, is an eyewitness to planes dispensing dispersant at night, as well as the Carolina Skiff crews spraying dispersant. “I worked out off the barrier islands of Mississippi,” Stewart said. “They would relentlessly carpet bomb the oil we found with dispersants, day and night.”

Stewart, echoing what VOO employees across the Gulf Coast are saying, told Truthout his crew would regularly find oil, report it, be sent away, then either watch as planes or Carolina Skiffs would arrive to apply dispersants, or come back the next day to find the white foamy emulsified oil remnant that is left on the surface after oil has been hit with dispersants.

Stewart added, “Whenever government people, state or federal, would be flying over us, we’d be instructed to put out all our boom and start skimming, acting like we were gathering oil, even when we weren’t in the oil.”

While acting as whistleblowers, Miller and Stewart have both been accused of being “troublemakers” and “liars” by persons in the Mississippi government and some of their local media, in spite of the fact that they are doing so from deep concern for their fellow fisherman and the environment.

But Miller and Stewart aren’t the only ones making trouble by exposing the Government sponsored cover up being ran by BP.

BP and the Federal Government gave Kindra Arnesen unlimited insider access to the the BP Gulf Oil Spill cleanup and response operations. Disgusted by what she saw she turned whistle blower at the Gulf Emergency Summit and exposed the shocking truth of what is really going on behind the scenes of the clean up operations.

Even a top level EPA official has stepped forward and said the federal government is covering up the lethality of Corexit and lying about water samples to help save BP billions of dollars in fines.

There are even stories about secret military processing plants to incinerate dead animals to save BP fines of up to $50,000 per animal.

While the government insists that Gulf sea food is safe independent scientists have found crabs contaminated with oil and dispersant along the Gulf Coast from Texas to Florida.

Marine Toxicologists Riki Ott has even said the situation in the Gulf in so bad that “We need to start talking about who is going to pay for the evacuations.”.

Government officials call Riki Ott an alarmist and a trouble maker as well but the fact is that over 1,000 people have called into poison control due to toxic exposures to the oil and a recent survey performed by Columbia University found that 40% of the people exposed to the Gulf Oil Spill are suffering from skin lesions and or respiratory problems.

Meanwhile, both men told Truthout they live with chronic headaches and other symptoms they’ve been experiencing since they were exposed to toxic dispersants while in the VOO program. Recent trips to investigate their waters for oil and dispersant have worsened their symptoms.

Others exposed to the dispersants have reported other symptoms such as brown urine and bleeding from the rectum.
“Why would we lie about oil and dispersant in our waters, when our livelihoods depend on our being able to fish here?” Miller asked. “I want this to be cleaned up so we can get back to how we used to live, but it doesn’t make sense for us or anyone else to fish if our waters are toxified. I don’t know why people are angry at us for speaking the truth. We’re not the ones who put the oil in the water.”

Miller is bleak about his assessment of the situation. He pointed out toward the coast and said, “Everything is dead out there. The plankton is dead. We pulled up loads of dead plankton on our trip on Wednesday. There are very few birds. We saw only a few when there are usually thousands. We only saw two porpoises when there are usually countless. We saw nothing but death.”

Coast Guard Complicity

“Lockheed Martin aircraft, including C-130s and P-3s, have been deployed to the Gulf region by the Air Force, Coast Guard and other government customers to perform a variety of tasks, such as monitoring, mapping and dispersant spraying,” states a newsletter published in July by Lockheed Martin.

“We got a call from EPA within days of when the platform fire occurred,” reports Dennis Miller, a program manager at Lockheed Martin Information Systems & Global Solutions. “We immediately mobilized equipment and people from Nevada, New Jersey and North Carolina.”

… Lockheed Martin aircraft, including C-130’s and P-3’s, have been deployed to the Gulf region by the Air Force, Coast Guard and other government customers to perform a variety of tasks, such as monitoring, mapping and dispersant spraying.
An article by the 910th Airlift Wing Public Affairs Office, based in Youngstown, Ohio, states that C-130H Hercules aircraft started aerial spray operations Saturday, May 1, under the direction of the president of the United States and secretary of defense. “The objective of the aerial spray operation is to neutralize the oil spill with oil dispersing agents,” it says.

6/24/2010 – Youngstown Air Reserve Station, Oh — Normally, the 910th Airlift Wing (AW) based at Youngstown Air Reserve Station (YARS), Ohio, is known for its aerial spray missions to control vegetation and overpopulation of insects. However, for the first time in its history, the 910th AW deployed its aerial spray capability to disperse oil instead of annihilating insects.
More than 60 Air Force Reservists and two specially equipped C-130H aircraft traveled to Stennis International Airport in Kiln, Miss., April 30, to aid in the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill cleanup efforts there.



During the 5-week mission, the YARS aircrews flew 92 sorties and sprayed approximately 30,000 acres with nearly 149,000 gallons of oil dispersant.



“We have one C-130A model under contract to Marine Spill Response Corporation (MSRC) and there is a stretch version … in Alaska,” said Mr. Toenshoff, vice president of the MSRC. “Both aircraft operate using their own spray systems. We also have seven spotter aircraft that tell the C-130s when to spray on a given area of the slick.”



“We used a standard of 1,500 feet and five miles visibility in order to safely conduct the operations,” said Maj. Phil Townsend, 757th AS chief of aerial spray. “This allowed us to move out of the way of ships and rigs out on the Gulf. When we disperse the oil, we fly down to 100 feet above the slick and the spotter will tell us when to spray and when to stop.”



“Seeing the oil the first time we flew out over the Gulf was quite an amazing thing,” he said. “For 20 to 30 miles out, we were seeing different streamers of oil and slicks 10 to 12 miles in length. When flying down at 100 feet, sometimes we could smell the vapors from the oil.”
“The (910th AW Servicemembers) fit right into our team and everyone wanted to help out,” he said. “We saw that in some of the turnaround times of (YARS) aircraft on the runways. Being able to land, reload the C-130 with dispersant and take off in about 10 to 12 minutes was unbelievable.”

Joseph Yerkes, along with other Florida commercial fishermen and Florida residents, have seen C-130s spraying dispersants on oil floating off the coast of Florida numerous times.

But the Coast Guard denies it.

On July 4th, marine biologist and toxicologist Dr. Chris Pincetich – who has an extensive background in testing the affects of chemicals on fish – said that the Coast Guard was spraying Corexit at night over the Gulf:
At a VOO meeting in Destin on August 3, Lt. Cmdr. Dale Vogelsang, a liaison officer with the United States Coast Guard said, “I can state, there is no dispersant being used in Florida waters.”

The room, filled mostly with commercial fishermen, who were current or former members in BP’s VOO program, erupted in protest and disbelief. When Vogelsang was immediately challenged on his statement, he replied, “I’ll investigate the C-130s.”

Two BP representatives, along with Vogelsang, found themselves confronted by a large group of angry fishermen for over an hour. At times, the meeting resembled a riot more than the question-and-answer session it was intended to be.

Yerkes, who lives on Okaloosa Island, has been a commercial fisherman and boat captain most of his life. For the last 12 years, he has owned and operated a commercial live bait business.

Employed by BP as a VOO operator for more than two months, Yerkes, along with many other local commercial fishermen in the VOO program in his area were laid off on July 20 because BP and the Coast Guard believed there was no more “recoverable oil” in their area of Florida.

While officials report there is no more “recoverable oil” satellite photos show the area is covered with a huge slick that is visible from space.

Yet residents, fishermen, swimmers, divers and surfers in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana have been reporting oil floating atop water, sitting on the bottom and floating in the water column, in oftentimes great amounts, for the last two weeks. There have been many reports of various kinds of aircraft, including C-130s, dispensing dispersants over oil.

Yerkes provided Truthout with a letter he wrote to document his witnessing a C-130 spraying what he believes to be dispersant.
“I witnessed [from my home] a C130 military plane flying and obviously spraying” over the Gulf of Mexico on July 30, “flying from the north to the south, dropping to low levels of elevation then obviously spraying or releasing an unknown substance from the rear of the plane. This substance started leaving the plane when it was about ½ to 1 mile offshore, with a continuous stream following out of the plane until it was out of sight flying to the south.”

The substance, Yerkes wrote, “was not smoke, for the residue fell to the water, where smoke would have lingered.” He added, “this plane was very low near the water and the flight was very similar to viewings I made over the past few weeks when dispersants were sprayed over the Gulf near our area.”

A member of the VOO program provided relevant information of a “strange incident” on condition of anonymity. He was observing wildlife offshore the same day Yerkes witnessed the C-130 when he received a call from his supervisor. He told his supervisor he and his crewmember were not feeling well, so he was instructed to return in order “to get checked out because a plane had been reported in our area spraying a substance on the water about 10-20 minutes before.” The employee complained of having a terrible headache and nasal congestion while his crewmember said he had a metallic taste in his mouth.

After filling out an incident report, both men were directed to go to the hospital. The following day the two men were “asked to go to the hospital for blood tests.”

One week after the aforementioned meeting, The Destin Log quoted Vogelsang as saying he had contacted Unified Command who “confirmed” that dispersants were not being used in Florida waters. Vogelsang added, “Dispersants are only being used over the wellhead in Louisiana,” a statement that Truthout has heard refuted by dozens of commercial fishermen from Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.

Yerkes told Truthout that he, too, was aware of the Carolina Skiffs coming in from out of state to dispense dispersants over the oil. In the recent VOO meeting in Destin, Vogelsang was asked about the out-of-state contractors being brought in to work in Florida waters. He replied, “The only vessels we are using in the program are local, vetted vessels.”

His response caused an uproar of protest from the crowd, with various fishermen and VOO workers yelling that Carolina Skiffs were being brought in from out of state. To this, Vogelsang responded, “Vessels that are from out of the area are contractors with special skills.”

Vogelsang went on to claim that the amount of “product” [oil] being found in Florida is decreasing daily. This, too, caused an uproar from the room full of fishermen.

“I can take anybody in here out and show them oil, every single day,” David White, a local fishing charter captain responded. “I was in the VOO program, driving around calling in oil, telling them where it is and nobody ever came. I never saw any skimmers there and I’m talking about some serious oil. I can show you tar balls going across the bottom like tumbleweeds.”

Yerkes provided Truthout with a written statement from Lawrence Byrd, a local boat captain who was a task force leader in the VOO program from June 4 to July 21. On July 27 and 28, Byrd took BP officials, Coast Guard officials and an EPA official on a fact finding mission in search of oil.

“The Coast Guard told us if we could show them the oil, they’d put us back to work,” Yerkes told Truthout, “So Byrd took him, and other officials out on his boat and showed them the oil.”

Byrd’s statement contains many instances of the group encountering oil on the trips:
“Within 30 minutes in the Rocky Bayou and Boggy Bayou we found 4 different football field sized areas of oily sheen on the water … We moved east from there in search of weathered oil, just past Mid Bay bridge we found a 2 acre oil slick with a water bottle full of crude oil. At this time the Coast Guard Lt. had seen enough to warrant a 2nd trip with BP officials and EPA.”

The next day, July 28, Byrd wrote:

“On board were BP officials, a Parson official, 2 Coast Guard Lts and EPA. First stop Crab Island Destin where we found tar balls, dead fish and plenty of dead sargasm grass. All officials seemed very concerned about all of our findings.”
The report goes on to list further oil findings and added, “In the eyes of BP officials, Coast Guard Lts. and EPA, this was more than enough oil product to warrant the need for more VOO boats to serve as a first line of defense against this toxic pollution. To this day Destin VOO is still operating with ½ task force in the bay and ½ task force in Gulf with Walton County being completely unprotected! I feel all parties have good intentions but nothing is being done!”

“Somebody is stopping that process,” Yerkes told Truthout. “[Retired Coast Guard Adm.] Thad Allen stood up at Tyndall Air Force Base the same night that they sprayed dispersant on the oil in front of Destin and he said we are going to use local fishermen in each local area to do the jobs, even beyond the cleaning of the oil. The day after he said that at Tyndall … every one of the Carolina skiffs is loaded to the hilt with boom. Nobody else got reactivated.”

Yerkes expressed his frustration further. “They are lying about this whole thing and it’s got me in an uproar,” he said. “I’m by myself. I’m the only one willing to stand up. I have a lot of friends who want to stand up and speak out. They know the Coast Guard and BP are lying, but they won’t talk because they are getting paychecks and don’t want to jeopardize that. They are saying they are finding new oil all the time, but the Coast Guard claims they are testing it and saying it’s safe. I know for a fact they are not testing it and we watched and heard C130s fly every night in July.”

There is a clear pattern that VOO workers in all four states are consistently reporting:
VOO workers identify the oil.
They are then sent elsewhere by someone higher up the chain of command.
Dispersants are later applied by out-of-state contractors in Carolina Skiffs (usually at night), or aircraft are used, in order to sink the oil.
The oil “appears” gone and, therefore, no additional action is taken.

“There are surfers coming in with oil on them,” Yerkes continued, “There are divers telling us it’s on the bottom. We have VOO workers coming in after finding oil three inches thick atop the water as of last week and they go back out there and it’s gone.”

“There are stories of people getting notes on their cars, verbal and phone threats. I don’t want to become one of those people. I’m trying to heighten my profile so they don’t want to mess with me,” Yerkes added. “I want the truth to come out so the public knows. I’m trying to make BP and the government come out and tell the facts instead of lying to the public about what is going on. I want to know how much dispersants they are using, where all the oil is and the effects these are having on all of us. Somebody is lying and we want the truth.”
Original article by Dahr Jamail and Erika Blumenfeld of truthout.
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08-18-2010, 01:26 PM
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Quote:Feds: No timeline for completing Gulf relief well
By HARRY R. WEBER, Associated Press Writer – 4 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS – The government's point man on the Gulf oil spill said Wednesday he is no longer giving a timeline for completing the final stages of plugging BP's runaway well.

Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen told reporters that he will give the order to complete the so-called relief well when he is ready. Since nearly the start of the disaster in April, the plan had been to complete a relief well by early to mid-August. But stormy weather and now questions of how to mitigate risks have delayed that timeline.

Allen said BP PLC still needs to come up with a plan to alleviate pressure that may build up once the relief well intersects the runaway well.

Ultimately, the plan is to pump mud and cement into the runaway well from the bottom to plug it permanently.

Allen said he doesn't want to give timelines anymore because if he has to change them, that could cause a credibility problem.

"We will know when we have satisfied ourselves and we have removed any shadow of doubt," Allen said when asked at what point he would give the order to move forward. He said the pause is "nothing more than an overabundance of caution and doing our jobs."

The two options for relieving pressure are either to design a mechanism to attach to the current blowout preventer and temporary cap that has been preventing oil from entering the Gulf since mid-July, or to replace the existing blowout preventer with a new one first and then proceeding with the relief well.

John Wright, who has been leading the team drilling the relief well aboard a rig at the wellsite, said he also has not been given an exact timetable.

"I was told they are working through risk and contingency plans and would let me know when they were ready to start again," Wright said in an e-mail to The Associated Press from aboard the Development Driller III vessel.

The Deepwater Horizon rig exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and causing 206 million gallons of oil to spew from BP's well a mile beneath the surface of the Gulf of Mexico.

A procedure in which mud and cement was pumped in through the top of the well significantly reduced pressure inside the well.

But the government believes the so-called bottom kill procedure is necessary to declare the well dead once and for all.

Also Wednesday, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco responded to warnings from independent researchers who insist that the oil spill is a bigger mess than the government claims and that a lot of crude is lurking deep below the surface.

At the White House on Aug. 4, Lubchenco said that about 74 percent of the oil had been captured, burned, skimmed, evaporated, dissolved or dispersed. She asserted that the remaining 26 percent of the oil was on or just below the surface, had washed ashore or been collected from the shore, or was buried in sand and sediments.

That's not what the scientists from South Florida and Georgia found. They said that the oil is not gone and it has to be dealt with.

Lubchenco told reporters Wednesday that she stands by the conclusions in the government's report.

But, she added, "We know that oil is out there. It is diluted. Dilute and dispersed does not mean benign."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

Looks to me like Allen is admitting there's a problem...
Quote:It remains unclear how pressure will be relieved in BP's Macondo well
Kimberly Quillen, The Times-Picayune
Published: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:31 AM Updated: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:56 AM
BP and federal officials still have not decided how they will proceed with a final kill of the runaway Gulf of Mexico well, National Incident Commander Thad Allen said in a press briefing in Florida this morning.

"We continue to assess the condition of the well," said Allen, who could not say when a final decision will be made.
Allen also said the blow-out preventer that was being used in the drilling of a second relief well is being removed for use on the Macondo well.

BP has long planned to pump cement through a relief well into the bottom of the well in a final attempt to kill it. But over the past week, officials have become concerned that pumping cement in through the bottom could put too much pressure on a sealed outer layer of the well.

"There wasn't a plan in place (to deal with pressure in the well) because this has never been done before," Allen said Wednesday.

Two options are being considered to relieve the pressure.

One option is to remove the existing capping stack and blow-out preventer and put a new blow-out preventer on the Macondo well. The blow-out preventer that had been in use on the second relief well could be used for that purpose.

A second option involves developing a pressure relief mechanism in the capping stack.

Once federal officials and BP decide how to deal with pressure in the well, Allen said he will direct drilling of the primary relief well to resume.
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/




Quote:BP Gulf Oil Spill Feed - Deep Horizon Well - YOU MUST SEE THIS 8-18
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08-18-2010, 03:00 PM
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I thought the thing was filled with cement? how do you let just a little hardened cement out????

I'm calling shenanigans

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08-18-2010, 03:19 PM
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You mean Pelosi!!!

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08-18-2010, 04:10 PM (This post was last modified: 08-18-2010 04:10 PM by Squirrelmonkey.)
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no.....calling pelosi would be calling smelly*************botoxfakebitchcumdumpsterabortionistpukevomit

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Squirrelmonkey Wrote:no.....calling pelosi would be calling smelly*************botoxfakebitchcumdumpsterabortionistpukevomit


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Katfive Wrote:Niiiiiice!

you know.......i'm just tired of holding back my feelings and being such a shy wallflower


but I should have spaced out ****, **** and ***** better so it didn't show up as *************....it would at least give the reader a chance to figure it out

at least I didn't call her a roast beef ***** sucking nasty vagiterian that has turned me off of lesbianism forever

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08-18-2010, 04:46 PM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
Squirrelmonkey Wrote:you know.......i'm just tired of holding back my feelings and being such a shy wallflower


but I should have spaced out ****, **** and ***** better so it didn't show up as *************....it would at least give the reader a chance to figure it out

at least I didn't call her a roast beef ***** sucking nasty vagiterian that has turned me off of lesbianism forever


Are you sure you haven't reached nihilism yet?
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08-18-2010, 04:50 PM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
yeah.....


I'm there......thanks for finishing me off!

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08-18-2010, 04:59 PM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
/bgsmile ya'll cracked me up.../bgsmile



BTW, what's that greenish looking stuff coming out of that yellow cap looking thingy? On Enterprise ROV2.
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