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10-11-2008, 05:01 PM
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Wake up!! We are in the midst of a socialist revolution!!
Has Bush announced Martial Law yet?

Now?
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10-11-2008, 11:44 PM
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The Bug Wrote:I want a change...just not what he is offering/gun3

Are we still talking about panties and Storm's 4"?
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10-13-2008, 03:27 PM
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satx_pilot Wrote:Bought a nice Bushmaster AR-15 today. Gunna have some fun plinking targets at the gun range this weekend.

I have been considering getting one of these.......


I currently have an M-1 carbine, but ammo is getting too expensive for it.

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10-13-2008, 04:09 PM
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satx_pilot Wrote:Bought a nice Bushmaster AR-15 today. Gunna have some fun plinking targets at the gun range this weekend.

Squirrelmonkey Wrote:I have been considering getting one of these.......


I currently have an M-1 carbine, but ammo is getting too expensive for it.

M-1 Carbine ammo has never been cheap.

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10-13-2008, 08:05 PM
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I think a nice AR is much more versatile than an M-1 carbine. Of course, the ammo for the ARs (and everything else) has increased in the last few years.

Of course, the best idea is to have one of each and you are half-way there!

I have not stumbled across a nice M-1 carbine when I had the cash in the budget.
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10-13-2008, 09:15 PM
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Did anybody here the talk Obama was giving today when he was talking to the guy in the crowd wherever he was? He was talking to him about his tax plan and said that we need to "share the wealth with those behind us". Sure does seem like income redistribution and socialism to me. Below is from an email floating around containing quotes from Obama's book. I don't have the time or the energy to research if these are taken out of context, but if true Obama is seriously jacked in the head!

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'



And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
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10-13-2008, 09:31 PM
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Nope. As a historian, not that I am supporting Obama or McCain that you make sure you read the book before you quote it. The email could be totally wrong. Not flaming, just saying. LOL. By the way, Nelson Mandela's book is AMAZING. One of the best books I have ever read. Long Walk To Freedom made me think of just how lucky I really am.

Throughout the nation men and women, forgotten in the political philosophy of the Government, look to us here for guidance and for more equitable opportunity to share in the distribution of national wealth… I pledge myself to a new deal for the American people. This is more than a political campaign. It is a call to arms.- Franklin D Roosevelt
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10-13-2008, 09:42 PM (This post was last modified: 10-13-2008 09:46 PM by Charles Helm.)
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proger Wrote:Did anybody here the talk Obama was giving today when he was talking to the guy in the crowd wherever he was? He was talking to him about his tax plan and said that we need to "share the wealth with those behind us". Sure does seem like income redistribution and socialism to me. Below is from an email floating around containing quotes from Obama's book. I don't have the time or the energy to research if these are taken out of context, but if true Obama is seriously jacked in the head!

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'



And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Some of those quotes are distorted just enough to change the meaning. Snopes has a page on it for what it is worth.

I think he basically said he would stand with U.S. citizens from muslim countries if they were at risk of losing their rights.

However, he really does think we should redistribute income, and I think his voting record belies his move to the center since the primaries.

Edit: Here is the quote from Snopes:

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
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10-13-2008, 10:43 PM
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proger Wrote:Did anybody here the talk Obama was giving today when he was talking to the guy in the crowd wherever he was? He was talking to him about his tax plan and said that we need to "share the wealth with those behind us". Sure does seem like income redistribution and socialism to me. Below is from an email floating around containing quotes from Obama's book. I don't have the time or the energy to research if these are taken out of context, but if true Obama is seriously jacked in the head!

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'



And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Of all the people on here, you were the last I would suspect who would even slightly subscribe to something written in mass junk chainletter e-mails. Did you send it to 10 friends in the next 15 minutes so your true love would kiss you before the end of the month?

Sorry, prog. It's just that I remember you ripping on these e-mails just a few days ago, and now you're pasting their text. Dude, you're smarter than that.
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10-14-2008, 07:31 AM
Post: #30
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Interesting observations from a website posting:

Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto


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In the early '60's during the days of the "former" Soviet Union, Russian Premier Nikita Kruschev pounded his shoe on the podium of the United Nations and shouted to the West, "We will bury you!" Fearing an invasion from the Reds, America proceeded to build the most awesome military machine in history. Unfortunately, we forgot to guard our political homefront from being taken over by socialist - communist - liberal activists who would gain office and destroy American law by process of gradually installing the Communist agenda within our legal system and seperate branches of government. The Communist program from the start has been one which sees their revolution of 1917 succesful only upon total domination of the world. (See Brain Washing, A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics)

Americans, being the most naive people among the nations, now believe that Communism is dead because the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain have been removed. The ironic truth is that Communism has just switched names to become more "politically correct". Today it is called international democracy. The reason that the Berlin Wall came crashing down is not because Communism is dead but because they have achieved the planned agenda to communize the West, including America. Washington D.C. has indeed become part of the New World Order of atheist governments. With the last vestiges of Christian law having been removed from "American government" over the last twenty years, there is no longer a threat of resistance against world Communism. In reality, "American government" became part of the Iron Curtain, thus there was no more need for the likes of a Berlin Wall.

Once again, in their foolishness, the American public has believed the lies of their "leaders" who applaud "the fall of Communism", while they have sold out the country to anti-Christian, anti-American statutes and regulations on the federal, state, and local levels. Posted below is a comparison of the original ten planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart of each of the planks, The American people have truly been "buried in Communism" by their own politicians of both the Republican and Democratic parties. One other thing to remember, Karl Marx was stating in the Communist Manifesto that these planks will test whether a country has become commmunist or not. If they are all in effect and in force the country IS communist. Communism, but by any other name...??

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.



2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".



3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.



4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986);

Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.



5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).



6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.



7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.



8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Fedral Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.



9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.



10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .
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