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08-06-2010, 12:01 AM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
This THING is STILL leaking, spewing, and erupting on an hourly basis and the news reports this?!?!?
Quote:BP considers options as oil reservoir is still worth billions
by Harry Weber / Associated Press

Posted on August 5, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Updated today at 10:42 PM

NEW ORLEANS -- The vast oil reservoir beneath BP's blown-out well could still be worth billions of dollars even after it spewed crude into the Gulf of Mexico for more than three months -- but the multinational company blamed for causing the disaster isn't saying whether it plans to cash in on this potential windfall.

As BP on Thursday finished pumping cement into the blown well in hopes of sealing it for good, it insisted it had no plans to use it or its two relief wells to produce oil. But the company won't comment on the possibility of drilling in the same block of sea floor someday or selling the rights to the entire tract to another oil company.

None of this is likely to sit well with the people who lost their livelihoods from one of history's worst oil spills -- and who might find it distasteful for a company with revenues of $147 billion in the first half of 2010 even to consider revisiting the scene of April's fatal rig explosion as a profit source.

Linda Kaye Randolph, 54, a real estate investor who grew up on the coast in Pass Christian, Miss., said Thursday it disturbs her that anyone might use the site commercially.

"People died out there on that rig," she said, her voice cracking. "It isn't about the money. It would bother me that they're not respecting the people who died there. There's thousands of other wells. They can find another place. Leave that one alone."

One question is whether a relief well BP is drilling to plug the well for good, and its backup, could one day be used for production.

In recent days, the company has hinted it might not be necessary to pump mud and cement through the relief well, especially after news this week that a preliminary step -- pumping the same filler into the top of the broken well -- appeared to be working on its own.

Since sending filler into the runaway well via the relief hole would render it useless and unprofitable in the future, BP's apparent reluctance to do so raises suspicions it might be thinking about using the site later for commercial purposes, and BP isn't talking.

"I can't speculate on what the future might bring," spokesman Daren Beaudo said Thursday evening. "We're focused on the response."

BP has not been approached by any other company about buying the relief wells, spokesman Scott Dean said.

But with the company and its partners facing tens of billions of dollars in liabilities, the incentive to exploit the wells and the reservoir could grow.

Outgoing BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward said in June that the reservoir feeding the busted well was believed to hold about 2.1 billion gallons of oil. Roughly 200 million gallons have leaked out, leaving about 1.9 billion gallons, or about 45,238,000 barrels. At the current market price per barrel -- $82 -- that would make the reservoir still worth $3.7 billion.

The method of plugging the well could help determine how easily the reservoir can be tapped in the future.

In a procedure dubbed "static kill," crews this week pumped mud down the blown-out wellhead and forced the rogue crude back down into the reservoir for the first time since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded off Louisiana, killing 11 workers. On Thursday, they finished pumping cement down the well to seal off the oil at the source.

The next step will involve completing the relief well, which is now only about 100 feet from intersecting the busted well just above where it touches the reservoir.

For months, BP and government officials have said the plan was to pump mud and cement down the relief well -- or a backup one also near completion -- and stop the flow oil from the bottom, ensuring a tight seal.

BP is now saying only that the relief wells will be used in some fashion, while retired Adm. Thad Allen, who's overseeing the response for the government, continued to insist the relief wells will be completed on schedule in a procedure known as the "bottom kill."

"The well will not be killed until we do the bottom kill and do whatever needs to be done," Allen said Thursday, responding to reports of differences between BP and the government over the issue. "I am the national incident commander and I issue the orders. This will not be done until we do the bottom kill."

Company scientists are debating different strategies on how to use the primary relief well, BP Senior Vice President Kent Wells said Wednesday, without elaborating.

"I wouldn't put it government versus BP," he said. "This is just about some really smart people debating about what's the best way to do things."

Even if BP abandons the idea of using the three wells to bring up oil again, it still has access to a roughly 3-by-3-mile block of sea floor that could contain multiple reservoirs, "so there is a lot more potential" for oil production, said George Hirasaki, a Rice University professor in chemical and biomolecular engineering
an expert on oil containment.

Industry analyst Fadel Gheit of Oppenheimer & Co. said it was unlikely that BP would subject itself to an outcry by producing at the site. But that, he said, doesn't apply to others.

"There are people that would pay top dollar for any reservoir that produces 50,000 barrels of oil a day," Gheit said.

Anadarko, which is based in The Woodlands, Texas, has a minority stake in the busted well. An Anadarko spokesman declined to say Thursday whether the company would consider selling its rights to it.

BP's priorities appear to have changed completely over the past 90 days, Gheit said.

"It is like bringing a blank sheet of paper and rewriting everything you know," he said. "They don't know the assets that will stay, what assets will go, what fines will be assessed on them, how much they will be paying and for how long, and whether they will be able to hold onto these leases as part of the government punishment."

Melissa Schwartz, spokeswoman for the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement, which oversees offshore drilling, said her agency was not aware of any plans by BP to produce hydrocarbons at the blown-out well or to sell the lease to another company. The energy bureau would have to approve the assignment of the lease if it were sold or if a permit for drilling was requested.

Asked if the energy bureau would approve production on the lease after the well is plugged and the disaster cleaned up, Schwartz said it was "too early to make a determination until a thorough investigation has been completed."
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08-06-2010, 06:51 AM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
It's a source of revenue for BP, which will need the money. Produce the well to pay the bills and help the people on the coast to have jobs and keep on working.

I don't think many people thought of what would happen if BP went bankrupt. In the real world, bankruptcies end up with settlements of a dime on the dollar, or less. While a big investor can absorb this cost, an individual can't, and will lose their ***.
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08-08-2010, 01:30 PM
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I'm challenging those of you who can figure out how to do it, to use the lat and lon listed on the rov live feeds to figure out where in the world they are. Please post your findings.

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08-09-2010, 08:59 AM
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WeatherDiva Wrote:I'm challenging those of you who can figure out how to do it, to use the lat and lon listed on the rov live feeds to figure out where in the world they are. Please post your findings.

Thank you

MC252A is at 28.44' 17.277"N [McCondo BP Mississipi Canyon wells]
88.21' 57.340"W
MC252B is at 28.44' 15.027"N
88.22' 00.581"W

Might be easier figuring the videos ROV's from the wells than trying to chase down the street address of the ROV'S

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08-09-2010, 02:27 PM
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I really meant for someone to track down the ROVs, not the wells. I have done it and I was wondering if others would come up with the same info that I did. I really wanted to check myself against someone who might know more than me... thanks.
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08-09-2010, 05:13 PM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
WeatherDiva Wrote:I really meant for someone to track down the ROVs, not the wells. I have done it and I was wondering if others would come up with the same info that I did. I really wanted to check myself against someone who might know more than me... thanks.

Can't we just make a new song lyrics thread instead? You know you used to never worry about these kind of things - actually, you used to not worry about ANYTHING!
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08-09-2010, 05:50 PM
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GOM OIL Spill headed for the Coast ?
Google Earth can give you a real good idea, even pinpoint the location....if it's reported correctly.
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08-13-2010, 01:43 PM
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Quote:Feds: Relief drilling needed to kill BP's well
By TOM BREEN, Associated Press Writer – 2 mins ago

NEW ORLEANS – BP's blown-out oil well in the Gulf of Mexico is not yet plugged for good, and work on what's been touted as the permanent solution will need to continue, the federal government said Friday.

Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's point man for the spill response, said during a news conference crews must move forward drilling the relief well even though officials were still working out the best way to finish it.

"The relief well will be finished," he said. "We will kill the well."

BP had thought the mud and cement pumped in from above the leak may have essentially killed the well. But the relief well will allow engineers to pump in mud and cement from below, which is intended to permanently seal the well.

Work on the well and a second backup well was stopped this week because of bad weather.

The decision to proceed with the so-called "bottom kill" operation means a key milestone in the crisis that wreaked havoc on the Gulf Coast's economy and ecosystem remains days off. However, Allen has repeatedly insisted on an "overabundance of caution" when it comes to permanently plugging the well.

"If it's a nearly redundant safety measure, that makes sense to us," said Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, who attended a closed-door meeting Friday with Allen, local leaders and other federal officials.

Jindal said he was glad the work would proceed so long as there is no risk of damaging the temporary plug that's so far choked off the flow of crude.

Officials had been testing the pressure beneath the cement seal currently in place. Steady pressure would indicate the presence of cement in the space between the inner piping and the outer casing, likely indicating a permanent seal.

But because pressure rose during the testing, the scientists concluded that space still needs to be plugged in.

It would have been difficult to say the bottom kill was unnecessary after promising it for weeks as the ultimate solution, said Eric Smith, associate director of the Tulane Energy Institute.

"That's been the mantra all along, that they wanted to do the bottom kill," he said.

Bob Bea, a petroleum engineering professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who is conducting his own investigation into the disaster, agreed that proceeding with the relief well makes sense.

Too little is known about how much cement might be inside the space between the inner piping and outer casing to be confident the well is permanently plugged, he said.

"Everything we know at this time says we need to continue the work with the relief wells," he said. "We don't know the details of how they plugged the well from the top. We don't know the volume of material they put in the well bore, and without that we can't tell how close to the bottom of the well they got."

Not everyone along the Gulf Coast was pleased with the news that a more permanent solution was at least several days away, however.

"I have a hard time believing it will ever be over," said Doug Hunt, 47, a construction worker in Houma. "All we've heard is oil, oil, oil. I guess they'll do the job sooner or later, but it will take a long time for the people here to recover from this."

Drilling of the first relief well began in early May. Since then, the drill has been guided some three miles from the surface and two miles beneath the sea floor to within 30 to 50 feet of the target. The drill is about as wide as a grapefruit, its target less than half the size of a dartboard.

It's unclear when the drilling could be finished. Officials had projected as early as Friday before nasty weather forced the operation to a halt. Drilling that final stretch is a time-consuming and careful process as engineers work to make sure they don't miss.

Crews dig about 20 to 30 feet at a time, then run electric current through the relief well. The current creates a magnetic field in the pipe of the blown-out well, allowing engineers to calculate exactly where and how far they need to drill.

The flow of oil into the Gulf has been halted since July 15, when a temporary cap over the well was able to contain the spill. But officials have stressed for weeks that only a bottom kill will ensure the well is no longer a danger.

Before July 15, the oil leaked almost unimpeded for nearly three months and spewed some 206 million gallons of oil, according to the government's latest estimate. The crisis began on April 20, after an explosion on the BP PLC-leased Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers. Officials don't yet know the cause of the explosion, or why machinery designed to prevent the unchecked flow of oil failed to work.

BP has already spent $6.1 billion responding to the spill.
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08-13-2010, 01:45 PM
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Quote:Next steps for BP's Gulf of Mexico well remain unclear, Thad Allen says
Published: Friday, August 13, 2010, 12:53 PM Updated: Friday, August 13, 2010, 1:20 PM
Pressure tests conducted over the last 24 hours on BP's runaway Macondo well indicate that the well's outer shell is sealed, but officials still say it's unclear whether or not they will move forward with plans to pump cement into the bottom of the well.

"It remains a work in progress," National Incident Commander Thad Allen said in a press briefing Friday afternoon. "We're trying to assess the options we have."
Officials have planned for some time to first perform a static kill procedure, in which mud and then cement is pumped in through the well's top, and then perform a bottom kill. The static kill was performed last week. The bottom kill procedure, which would involve pumping cement in through the well's bottom in a final attempt to shut it down, was scheduled to be performed early next week. But Allen on Thursday raised the possibility that the bottom kill might not be necessary if cement had already worked its way into the well's outer casing as a result of the static kill.

Results of tests conducted over the last 24 hours indicate that the well's outer casing may be sealed, but Allen said Friday afternoon that no decision has yet been made about the bottom kill.

"We need to understand the implications of pumping mud and cement in to kill it from the bottom," Allen said.
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08-14-2010, 12:25 PM
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Quote:Adm. Allen Confused -- So, Now, Everybody Else Is, Too
August 12, 2010
For the last several days, I've been trying to figure out what BP is doing and what is the actual condition of BP's MC252 well after their "static kill" and cementing procedure last week apparently didn't work. You'll recall that when Kent Wells announced this procedure, he actually used the words "killed" and "dead." In his July 19th McBriefing, he said,
"If we can do the static kill, it might kill - might kill just in the casing, it might kill in the annulus, it might kill both but it should accelerate or at least complement improve the relief well."
Then during his July 21st McBriefing, Wells said this:
"So one thing I want to stress is the static kill in no way slows down the relief well activity. That's continuing exactly as planned. We're looking at the static kill as an option to actually accelerate the final killing of the well. Now, depending upon - because we don't know whether the flows up the casing, the annulus or both, it's difficult for me to predict what the static kill could do. But I would put it in the range of it could go from - it could kill the well all the way to it couldn't kill the well. But in either case, what I want to stress is we will continue on with the relief well and even if the static kill had killed the well, we will confirm that with the relief well or if it hadn't killed the well, then we would kill it from the bottom. So I'd like us to think of it -- it's a very good option to accelerate the killing process without getting in the way of the relief well." (emphasis added)
So, the narrative building here is that the static kill was low risk, could kill the well from the top, and that it could actually speed up the relief well. I knew, from the very first moment this was mentioned, that BP would do the new top kill, rebranded as the "static kill."

To add to the argument to go ahead with the kill, Adm. Allen said in his July 22nd briefing:

"We have a pressure head up there that would help us now fill the top part of the well with mud. That would actually ultimately enhance the relief well effort that would take place five to seven days later." (emphasis added)
On August 2nd and 3rd, BP ran the "static kill" pumping 2,300 barrels of mud. Early in the morning on the 4th, BP issued a press release saying the the well had reached a "static condition" with well pressure "controlled by the hydrostatic pressure of the drilling mud." In his McBriefing later that day, Wells actually said that when they pumped the mud, they could actually see it go into the reservoir by pressures, and that they pumped up to 15 barrels per minute. They studiously avoided the terms "dead" and "killed". During the briefing, Wells also said:
"And what we -- what we're doing now is, every six hours, we just inject a little more mud into the well, just to continue to give ourselves confidence that we can do that, keep our equipment live, and we're seeing a very, very static set of conditions as we continue to monitor the pressure, which is all very encouraging." (empasis added)
With all the encouraging signs, Steve Chu approved pumping cement, which they did on the 5th. In a briefing on the 6th, Doug Suttles declared victory, say that the "...cement job is performing as expected". He also said that they pumped 500 barrels of cement, leaving about 200 inside the casing.

All was right with the world. Except, it wasn't. Day before yesterday, Adm. Allen announced they were going to start a "pressure test," babbling about the annulus and raising the ominous spectre that they are still actually communicated to the reservoir. Wells confirmed that fear in the afternoon, admitting that they indeed had 4,200 psi on the well when it's supposed to be dead. At the seafloor, the well should have no more than 2,200 psi on it, and conceivable less, if the hydrostatic of the mud in the closed well had overcome reservoir pressure. Then it got really confusing. Wells said that it wouldn't hold 4,200 psi because of "bubbles" leaking out of the wellhead, implying that they are pumping on it to keep it there, but that they're going to "test" it by relieving pressure? Also, the more Adm. Allen explains what's going on, the more the press gets confused. Hell, I understand this business and I'm confused.

To add to the jumble, Adm Allen said this in his briefing yesterday:
"Sure, there's a very low probability that we might have actually sealed the annulus with the cement that came down the pipe casing and came back up around it. What we want to do is understand whether or not there's what we call free communication. In other words whether there, the hydrocarbons in the reservoir can actually come up through the annulus outside the casing, if that's the case when we go in and we drill in we put the mud and cement we're just going to drive that down and seal the well. OK? If there's cement there and there's no communication that means we have what we call stagnate oil trapped around that casing up to the well head. If you go in and you start pumping mud and cement in there the chances are you could raise the pressure and push that up into the blow out preventer. And that's a very low possibility, low probability event but we want to, we want to test the pressure in the blow out preventer and see if we actually have pressure coming up that would indicate that we have free communication with the reservoir. If not that would change our tactics and how we do the final kill."
Clear as drilling mud. What's going on here is that the "static kill" looks like it did the opposite of what BP and Allen had suggested at the beginning. It certainly hasn't accelerated the relief well. To the contrary, it has caused interminable delays. As a matter of fact, since July 13, the DDIII has only drilled 70 or 80 feet and set one string of casing. With all of the shut downs for the "well integrity test", then the "well injectivity test", then the "static kill" plus cementing, they haven't been able to get much work done for a month, especially with the 2 weather delays.

The mis-information and confusion is also taking its toll. I got asked in an interview yesterday that since the well is "dead" now, why are they bothering with the relief well? AP reported last night that BP and the government are contemplating skipping the bottom kill. Every time Wells, Suttles, or Allen get in front of a microphone, everyone gets even more confused, mis-informed, or both; everyone just wants this to go away, but it's not going away; not until the relief well kills from the bottom as we've been saying for over 3 months.

In actuality, this "static kill" did nothing that BP and Allen said it would do. Certainly the well is not dead or "static". It hasn't accelerated the relief well, but it has obscured the well's pressures, making it more difficult to kill. Hence, these new tests to figure out what's going on. BP and the government don't really have a clue where the 2,300 barrels of mud and 500 barrels of cement went. They originally claimed it all went down the casing and out to the reservoir. I would set the probability of that actually having happened at zero. Here's why: The positive test on the casing the night of the blowout was rock solid. The casing was good. It is possible that they may have collapsed the production casing during the blowout, but that would have been relatively high up in the wellbore, probably where they had displaced with seawater on the inside. If that happened, it would be communicated with the backside. In addition, at the bottom of the production casing is a float shoe, 134 feet of cement in the shoe track, then a float collar, then 2 cementing plugs with probably cement on top of those. Oh, and don't forget about the 3,000 feet of drill pipe hanging inside all of that. There is no way, unless that entire float assembly blew off, that they pumped down the casing and up the backside. On top of all that, there are HUGE lost circulation zones both below and above the reservoir. During drilling they lost 3,000 barrels of mud trying to drill that last section.

So, where did all the mud and cement go? It likely went down the backside of the production casing and either out through some damage that was caused during the aborted top kill, or out the lost circulation zone right below the 9 7/8" liner at 17,100. The fact that they're getting pressure now tells me that they are indeed communicated to the reservoir below, probably obscured by the fact that they now have mud strung through the annulus. If they are indeed communicated, pressure will build on the wellhead, which is exactly what's happening. Adm. Allen pledged to get BP to release the pressure data 3 days ago. The next day, when asked about it, he said it was released, but "nobody can find it." The data is still AWOL.

So, now, here we sit, waiting on weather again, and then we're going to pressure test a well that's supposed to be dead instead of getting the relief well finished. The press is confused; the public is bored.
by Robert L. Cavnar

Quote:Questions BP Needs to Answer
August 9, 2010
We all know that BP and the US government have been doing everything they can to get the blowout well off of the television news. We've been talking for weeks how it was also to BP's advantage to not measure the flow from the well before killing it so they can argue lower fines. Since Adm. Allen ordered BP to set the "capping stack" on July 8, they have gone through one machination to another to avoid actually producing the well to the surface so the volume could be measured. Here are some of those actions that BP has (or has not) taken to avoid measuring the flow since May. I'll note that all actions were taken with the blessings of the US government.

Massive containment structure: Set 600 feet from wellhead over only one leak from wrecked riser. Result: Complete failure due to hydrates.
Riser insertion tool to capture flow from wrecked riser. Result: Mostly a failure, capturing less than 8,000 barrels per day.
Top kill with wrecked riser still attached. Result: Complete failure after going radio silent for 16 hours and Adm. Allen mistakenly saying that kill was being successful.
Tight top cap after removing riser. Result: Compete failure -- rather than removing riser flange, attempt to cut riser with wire saw fails. Finally cut riser with hydraulic shear.
Top hat to capture flow without removing riser flange. Result: Partial failure, recovering less than 50% of flow from well.
Limited application of dispersants: Result: Massive application of a million and a half gallons of dispersant (banned in the UK), over half at the wellhead, which had never been tested. Result: Gigantic plumes of dispersed oil deep in the water column. Extent of damage unknown.
Capping stack: Stack completed late June. Sat on the dock until Adm. Allen ordered it installed on July 9. Finally set on July 12, with plan to connect containment ships.
Well integrity test: Sudden announcement on July 11 that BP would perform a 6-to-48 hour "well integrity test". Result: Unknown due to lack of meaningful data. Integrity test continued for weeks past deadline at pressure below which BP had announced integrity existed. BP moved the integrity goalpost from 8,000 psi to existing pressure.
Static kill: Announced suddenly when containment vessels were scheduled to be ready to receive production from well. No rational, cogent explanation. Result: Unknown. BP announced well "static" on August 4th, without disclosing pressures or volumes. Pumped cement two days later, pressures undisclosed. Announced that kill went down the casing with no evidence, no disclosure of treating pressures.
ROV feeds: Consistent early on after demanded by Markey. During static kill, critical feeds removed. Feeds restored only after Daily Kos Gulf Watchers asked Adm. Allen publicly why the feeds had been removed. After "static kill," most feeds removed again, other feeds blurred to point of being uninformative.
Four risers with containment vessels to capture the flow: Deadline: second week of July. Result: Never completed.
Since announcing success (sort of) of the static kill, MSM attention has dropped to virtually zero, though the well is obviously far from static, judging from the huge clouds in the water around the wellhead and as well as numerous ROVs surrounding the wellhead, providing no feeds to the public. The media has paid virtually no attention to these feeds and has asked no questions of Adm. Allen or BP. BP has stopped briefing the public daily.

Last week, a joint report from NOAA and the USGS surprisingly concluded that most all of the five million barrels of oil have disappeared, even as waves of tar balls and oil continue to roll ashore across Louisiana. Anxious to put this catastrophe behind them, the Obama administration rushed out the report, supported by the president, his press secretary, Adm. Allen, and the rest of the bureaucracy, trying to make it all go away in advance of the mid-term elections. The problem is that there are lots of questions that remain unanswered. Here's what I want to know:

Is the well dead?
What is the pressure on the well? Now?
If the well is open to the surface, what is that pressure?
What was the pressure during the "static kill"? Did it change at any time? What was total volume pumped?
What was the pressure during the bullhead cement job? Did you do the "hesitation squeeze" that Kent Wells mentioned in passing? What was displacement volume?
How do you know all the cement went down the casing?
What was the pressure on the well after the job?
Why is the flex joint flange leaking?
Why are the ROV feeds no longer provided in a decipherable resolution?
Why are some ROV feeds not being provided?
Has the well kicked since the bullhead cement job?
What pressure did the bullhead cement job test to?
Have you had to pump mud into the well since the bullhead cement job? How much?
Why are clouds of debris continuing to obscure the view several days after the well was supposedly "static"?
Were the rams of the old BOP opened for the static kill or bullhead cement job?
If so, could you tell if the drill pipe fish stuck in the BOP dropped into the well?
Can you close the blind shear rams now?
What is the damage to the rams in the old BOP?
Until these questions are answered by BP, we have no real information to tell us that the well is dead, or even safe. As long as they continue to stonewall critical data, I'll only continue to believe that the well is not "static" or safe.
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